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Trust and Friendship

 

This first thing that many new pilots in Eve are told is “trust no one!” The chat in Jita local certainly emphasizes this. While there is a core truth to it, for the new player the advice gets more and more unrealistic the longer the player stays in the game.

Eve Online is well known for its spies, thefts, and betrayals. These are events that make headlines and make Eve the “best game to read about but not play”. The stories of broken trust run throughout every thread of New Eden. From the oft told tale of the Guiding Hand Social Club, to the collapses of Band of Brothers and Goonswarm, to endless stories of corporate theft; Eve Online is well known as an open sandbox where the developers let the players, and not the GMs, dole out justice.

Even Brave Collective (my own alliance) suffered both coup and counter-coup as players battled for control of the alliance itself, conspiring and cajoling influential players to one side or another. Contacted by people from both sides, I found myself pondering a moral dilemma of what to do, over internet spaceships.

It’s easy for people to think that being a scoundrel is the primary reason people play Eve. The thing that actually gives players a reason to log in and play is just the opposite: It’s friendship and trust.

Recently, over general alliance comms, another player asked if anyone had a deep space transport in Fountain to loan. I had one, so I opened a trade window and handed it to him. There was no ISK exchanged or even discussion about a price. Why would I hand a quarter billion ISK ship to someone? Because he is my friend and I trust him. I’ll know he’ll return it or pay for it in time.

In a game where groups often require applicants to submit their API keys—disclosing many of their “intimate” details—it’s hard to imagine getting to the level where people trust each other with valuable items and information. But we see these levels of trust in play everyday in Eve.

For many people, Eve is about the community, first and foremost. People log into the game to be with their friends. It doesn’t even need to be Eve, many communities spread across many games. When I log in every night, I’m not really after any specific goal. I’m interested in having fun, whether that’s finding a wormhole and spooking the locals, mining in a bait Procurer, or getting my triage carrier doomsdayed. Doing it alone or with strangers has little appeal compared to sharing those moments with friends.

Yes, Eve does have a fair share of people you shouldn’t ever trust, and even a few genuine sociopaths. But that should not be the rationale to “trust no one!” Almost every Eve player has a story of being ripped off or betrayed. I’m not saying blindly trust everyone in Jita local—I am saying, though, if you aren’t making friends and having at least a few people you trust, Eve is probably not the game for you. This puts new players in a conundrum: “How do I engage in a multi-player game based on associating with others, without trusting anyone?” The truth is, you need to be able to develop relationships in Eve.

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So how do you build these relationships? How do you find people to trust in Eve? It breaks down to just like any other human interaction:

Trust your instinct—You come from a long line of humans that successfully were able to winnow bad people out of their lives long enough to have families. A lot of this is instinctual and within each of us. If a person feels hinky or sketchy to you, then trust your gut. Treat them with suspicion.

If it’s too good to be true, it usually is—This is more avoiding scams than anything else. Many people are helpful in Eve, and will give you a little help, but no one is really leaving Eve and no one will double your ISK. While players continue to fall for scams in Jita regularly, scams do exist in low and nullsec as well. They can even occur within your own corp or alliance. Getting a good deal from time to time can be expected; getting an incredible deal is likely a scam of some sort.

Do others vouch for them?—The past experiences of others are a good gauge of how someone will act in the future. It’s far from perfect, but a person that has safely moved the ships of others in carriers in the past is likely the kind of person you can trust in the future.

Earn each other’s trust—This takes time, but is most tried and true method. Starting with small things and slowly escalating to where you can trust them with much more valuable or important tasks. I’ve been playing with some of these people for a few years now, and have developed a tremendous amount of trust and confidence.

Is this a foolproof plan to avoid being duped? Absolutely not. You will be betrayed at some point during your time in New Eden. It’s not a matter of if, but when. I guarantee it.

So when you do get betrayed, don’t take it personally. It’s not you, it’s them. Some can get so frustrated with a betrayal that it leads to ragequitting and other bad outcomes. Your finance director will steal a corp wallet. That newbie you helped will light a cyno and bring in a gank fleet on your expensive ship. Your lead diplo might command a coup.

It’s OK. If you’ve accepted that it’s inevitable, you will be better prepared to shake it off when it occurs. You might even laugh when you realize that it just might lead to the best part of Eve, which is revenge. The only thing that Eve players love more than a tale of betrayal, is a tale of revenge. Ask for help to plan and execute revenge on a player that’s wronged you, and you will have people coming out of the woodwork to assist you on this quest. The joy of exploding a defector that AWOXed on their way out is one of the best feelings in the game. The more complex the revenge, the sweeter the feeling and the more delicious the tears.

Again, contrary to the common refrain, without finding friends and having someone to trust, you will find Eve Online a lonely and boring game. Go forth and find the people you like and trust, but prepare yourself for the ups and downs that make up the rollercoaster life that is New Eden.

About the author

Dunk Dinkle

Dunk Dinkle has played Eve since 2008. A life-long gamer, he's played MMORPGs since the first days of Ultima Online. In Eve, he's taken a path from high sec mission running to factional warfare to null sec. After the battle of Asakai, Dunk landed in Brave Newbies where he annoys FCs with an extensive soundboard.

  • Really good article. There are lots of good ways to mitigate risk while developing friendships to a point of trust. Maybe a good follow-up topic!

  • Messiah Complex

    You should not give advice about EVE that applies equally well to life in general. That’s cheating.

  • pewpew

    “Even Brave Collective (my own alliance) suffered both coup and
    counter-coup as players battled for control of the alliance itself”

    I’d say ESPECIALLY Brave Collective. Everyone and their dog in Brave has a PL alt, and there are no less than 12 Goon/BL/Core spies on comms at any given time in any given channel (case and point, those BL supercaps that pissed off as soon as someone opened their big mouth on comms about incoming PL reinforcements). Not to mention that every single player in New Eden knows the password to Brave POSes (case and point, that fucking Chimera that was tackled, until it burned into a Brave POS shield).

    Security is ridiculously bad, to the point where the vast majority of the fights are lost not because of bad strategy, inferior skill or inferior firepower, but because the enemy already knows exactly what will be brought to the field, how it is going to be flown and how much reinforcements are available before the fight has even begun.

    Intel reporting is equally bad. Known hotdroppers might pass though systems full of blues without a peep on the Intel channel. To be fair, this is a HERO thing, not just a Brave thing. Might also have something to do with the recent move into Fountain. But GODDAMN IT, if a neut/red comes into system, REPORT IT. It’s not hard. Report it badly, report it multiple times, WHATEVER. Bad intel is better than no intel. If there is one thing we HEROes should learn from the Provi block, it is how to intel. Over there, if you are marked KOS and you show up, you are reported. No ifs, no buts. Everybody knows you are there, and within minutes a gatecamp will be waiting for you.

    /rant

    • Grafite

      cool story bro

  • ScottyWired

    “but no one is really leaving Eve and no one will double your ISK.”

    Although I got lucky, and some guy really was leaving. It was along the lines of ‘gonna go play Tera now first person to respond gets my isk’ and through some quick typing I ended up with 300’000’000+ ISK while played Eve for less than four days!

  • Kamar Raimo

    Interestingly enough I managed to go through most of my EVE career without being ripped off, scammed, betrayed or sold out. Did quite a bit of the latter two myself though, but I’m a nice guy, really. They all deserved it (and I got paid well).

    Also, a quarter billion deep space transport?! Hey man, if you are willing to pay that, I’ll sell them to you for 200 mill a piece! Best deal ever! Cross my heart!