Imperium Fleet Slaughtered in DW-T21


As the so called War of Sovless Aggression, or World War Bee, depending on which side a pilot is on, slogs on in northwestern New Eden a common theme among The Money Badger Coalition (MBC) line members and leaders is that The Imperium refuses to undock in anything other than interceptors. Those of us who fight regularly in the The Imperium’s fleets know better, yet this myth persists.

Recently, those who do not exist, led by Asher Elias [GEWNS], opened up one of the Reaver doctrines to the line members for a joint operation. The fleet was by no means full, attracting around 80 pilots.

(16:57:13 PST) directorbot: Alright. Mittens has gone for alliance wide reimbursement for cerbs instead of just Reavers so if you’ve ever wanted to come on a Reavers cerb fleet, join up!

FC: Asher Elias || Strat  Op || Op 8 || saranen || Cerbs + Scimis + Support (on contract) || Estimated duration 2.5 hours

~~~ This was a broadcast from asher_elias to all at 2016-04-18 23:57:15.727284 EVE ~~~

It All Started Out Well Enough

The fleet undocked from Saranen and was set upon by a random Thrasher gang almost instantly. Of course the Thrashers were no match for a Cerberus fleet of 50+ and those who didn’t lose their ships quickly scurried off.

Having cleared the undock, Asher ordered his fleet to free burn to Okagaiken, then north into Fade via the Cloud Ring regional gate in 6RCQ-V. The fleet met no resistance en route and things went smoothly right until they jumped into the DW-T21 system. The Imperium once owned that system, but like so many systems in the northwest, it has become a decaying monument to the might of The Imperium during Dominion sov.

Then Things Got Dicey

The fleet arrived in DW-T21, but could not go forward, nor could it go back – not without a fight. The MBC fleets has laid a trap for The Imperium, fielding doctrines designed to counter a Cerberus fleet. Three fleets total enveloped The Imperium’s forces. This first fleet served as the Cerberus hunters, while the other two were Astarte and Navy Apocalypse fleets that took up blocking positions that dashed any real chance of escape.

A Forlorn Hope

Asher’s forlorn hope was that a wormhole may be in system and could could take them somewhere, anywhere away from DW-T21. Experienced scanners brought their ships in to the system to check for holes out, but to no avail. No wormhole was found and the Cerberus fleet was as good as dead if they could not escape.

FC, Shitposting Spike in Local

It’s another common myth among the MBC forces that the morale of the Imperium is already crushed completely.

In spite of this, morale was still fairly high. It’s another common myth among the MBC forces that the morale of the Imperium is already crushed completely. Line members made jokes, traded insults and friendly jabs with each other, and passed the time as Asher warped the fleet from safe spot to safe spot for over 30 minutes.

Meanwhile the MBC’s balls grew swollen and blue, which led to an endless torrent of impotent shitposting in local due primarily to what I can only guess was their frustration. It was also clear that MBC spies had compromised OP8 on mumble. A local shitposting spike taunted The Imperium fleet members about the absence of escape wormholes.

Some of the line members didn’t know that they were fated to go home in a pod, while others accepted their fate. No one was angry, angsty, or otherwise filled with tears over their impending doom, or displaying a defeatist attitude in general.

Extortion Attempts Masked as E-Honor

During the constant warping, one of the MBC FCs, Requiescat [TISHU], offered exorbitant terms for safe passage to The Imperium’s FC. A billion isk in exchange for 5 seconds of quasi- safe passage out of the system. Those terms were flatly refused by Asher, who had been lied to in the past too many times by enemy FCs offering such deals.

[ 2016.04.19 01:25:23 ] Asher Elias > oi

[ 2016.04.19 01:25:30 ] Requiescat > hey

[ 2016.04.19 01:25:53 ] Requiescat > so dan is apparently snapchatting with a dude in your fleet trying to broker a gudfite deal and i figured lets cut out the middle men

[ 2016.04.19 01:26:29 ] Asher Elias > I told him to tell his friend “you get rid of your blue donut and I’ll get rid of your blue balls”

[ 2016.04.19 01:26:37 ] Requiescat > rich

[ 2016.04.19 01:26:50 ] Requiescat > anyhow

[ 2016.04.19 01:26:56 ] Requiescat > swigg just jumped in and they’re chasing you

[ 2016.04.19 01:27:05 ] Requiescat > if you wanna run you probably have to go through o-c

[ 2016.04.19 01:27:12 ] Requiescat > so

[ 2016.04.19 01:27:25 ] Requiescat > if you jump in here, you’ll jump into a bubble, but i’ll hold fire for 5 seconds and let you get your whole fleet out of it

[ 2016.04.19 01:27:53 ] Asher Elias > Isorry I’ve been burned by too many deals

[ 2016.04.19 01:28:15 ] Requiescat > it’s the best you’re gonna get v0v

[ 2016.04.19 01:28:19 ] Requiescat > expires at 0130

[ 2016.04.19 01:28:48 ] Asher Elias > alright thanks

[ 2016.04.19 01:28:51 ] Asher Elias > have a good one

No, The Imperium FC and the line members were going to fight and not give in to half assed attempts at extortion.

The engagement started out well enough for the Imperium, but quickly faltered as they began losing Cerberuses.

The first engagement took place at the O-NCPR gate, which was bubbled well enough to block an escape by The Imperium. Targets for the Imperium fleet were primarily focused on degrading MBC fast tackle and interdiction capabilities in order to make a possible escape easier. The engagement started out well enough for the Imperium, but quickly faltered as they began losing Cerberuses. At least 6 line ships from The Imperium were lost in the exchange, while the MBC lost at least 3 of their Interdictors and a single logistics ship. Asher’s forces were routed and forced to resume warping the fleet at a breakneck pace to avoid being scanned down and warped in on by the MBC fleets.  

77 vs. 178 at the Sun

It was the end, the fleet had too many who were not Reavers and not used to the not existing lifestyle to continue. Asher asked for the interdictor pilots to X up in fleet and stand by to bubble at his command once the fleet had landed. Asher warped his fleet to the Sun and waited for the MBC to come for his fleet.

When the MBC fleets showed up on grid, bubbles were put up ahead and on anchor as ordered and the two fleets engaged in a vicious exchange of missiles and guns. The Imperium fleet’s Interdictors were vollied off the field within seconds and the Cerberus line began to fold rapidly a few moments later.  

Battle Report DW-T21


The MBC did fine job massing the numbers, the right ships for the job, the correct timing of the operation to trap The Imperium, and coordinating their forces. The few Imperium ships that remained tried to escape, but were mopped up in O-CNPR.

Overall, 9 billion ISK was lost by The Imperium, while Money Badgers losses were light. This was a clear victory from the Money Badgers, however, as I type this, The Imperium is pinging for fleets and undocking to continue their self-described hell war against the MBC. It would be a mistake for the MBC to believe that they have achieved complete destruction of the Imperium at this time though. The leadership of Goonswarm Federation and the Imperium are playing the long game..


About the author

Viktor Fel

Viktor is currently a member of Goonwaffe, and has actively not existed in the Reavers SIG since its founding in 2014. His EVE hobbies include aborting baby titans, making renters miserable, mass murder in space. You know, just Reaver things.

  • Rob Kaichin

    “[ 2016.04.19 01:27:25 ] Requiescat > if you jump in here, you’ll jump into a bubble, but i’ll hold fire for 5 seconds and let you get your whole fleet out of it”


    That’s right, boys and girls, Nothing was too much for Asher.

    Anyway, keep crowing about a 0.28% of your players undocking to fight. That’s the level of success you’ve been reduced to.

    • Viktor Fel

      I’m going to kill my editor now, BRB, extortionate.

    • Viktor Fel

      Eitehr way I’ll eat shit for that screw up.

  • Ming Tso

    This is going to get really ugly once Mittens announces that the CFC is leaving Saranen because the coalition is on the verge of revolt… and then is forced to stay there against their will,docked, because MBC forces won’t let them evac.

    • Rolfski

      That’s why he probably will not announce an evac of Saranen. If CFC really wants to play the long game, they’ll have to accept that they going to be stuck there for a long time.

      • Str8 2theBank

        They could always join CODE, lol

  • Montolio Was Right

    so, scouts couldn’t report these huge ass fleets before you went into the pipe system?


    Remember that 140 man caracal fleet that got trapped, jumped back and forth ONE gate 4 times and THEN decided to dock with 70 people left? FC told everyone to leave ship and pod yourself home to sajonara, caracals will be picked up later~?
    Suffice to say: accepting your fight and go out brawling are hell of a way better to go down, good for undocking 0.3% of the once
    mighty CFC.

  • Viktor Fel

    Oh my, looks like it’s partly cloudy with a GRRR-Goons shit posting front in the response section today.

    • Rob Kaichin

      What you give is what you get.

      • Rob Kaichin

        And yes, I am singing along.

      • Viktor Fel

        So let me get this right, nothing less than a complete 5k word op-ed about how the mittani is horrible and the most vile human being on the planet will suffice for you?

        • Rob Kaichin

          Actually that was a joke about how you writing a “shitpost” brought out the people who “shitposted”.

          If you wanted to write a post about another fight, dropping the snide comments and inaccuracies would bring out complimentary comments. Look at Anschau’s posts on TMdC for a comparison between ‘spin’ and ‘fact’.

    • Johnathan Severasse

      How to post like a goon 101:

      1. Editorialize your opinions and state them as fact.
      2. Spam the post everywhere
      3. Immediately go on the defense and damage control hard in the comment sections with clever quips and ~tilde posting~
      4. Continue to lose sov hand over fist and claim you are winning.

      • Viktor Fel

        ~~~ I love how people are so blinded by their grrr goon they can’t read anything by a goon and see it as anything more than a purely pro goon article. Do you really think my editors would let me post such a thing here? If you do, well…I can’t help you, but ask your doctor if risperidone or aripiprazole are right for you. ~~~

        • Johnathan Severasse

          You are only proving point 3 here with that reply.

          However, you did editorialize a few facts of the story and add your own thoughts and beliefs in to what was a fairly straightforward and well written battle report.

          • Viktor Fel

            WelI could put article stubs up, but this isn’t /r/eve where Goon fleet dies passes as a worthwhile post.

          • Johnathan Severasse

            Ah I see you have a nicely developed strawman argument.

            But because you won’t answer my question I will address your remark. There is a fundamental difference between Crossing Zebras and /r/eve, surely you can understand that. The content on /r/eve is a discussion forum that is clearly not a journalistic website, Crossing Zebras however is a journalistic website.

            If you really cannot understand the difference of medium between a public web forum with free registration and a website that has well written and supposedly well curated authors then I truly do pity you.

        • callduron

          When you say things like ” The leadership of Goonswarm Federation and the Imperium are playing the long game.” it grates because you have no idea about that. Goon leadership doesn’t explain its strategy to you. You’re falsely representing what you hope is the case as fact.

          Little asides like that in an otherwise well written battle report diminish the quality of your writing and of course trigger all us grrr goons posters.

          • Viktor Fel

            actually they do explain some of that. I don’t need to know all the details, though I do know some of them.

          • callduron

            Again it sounds like you really are borrowing things beyond your ability to really know. Hypothetically if GSF had a brilliant but secret short term plan but wanted their enemies to think they were waiting for the long term, what would they tell you?

            Still think you know enough to, in your capacity as a paid journalist, to reliably inform your readers of the facts as best you know them?

            I’m sorry we’re all dogpiling you as I really like your articles here even if I usually comment to contest some pro-Goon point. I really think you would improve as a writer if you stuck to what you know or could reasonably infer rather than just parroting Mittens. (You know he’s very self-contradictory right?).

            Talk to people at CZ or in the Imperium if you like, that might be better than hearing it from me who I’m sure you see as just another grrr gon troll.

          • Chief Gumbo Speaker

            I’ve been in the CFC they don’t explain squat, and quite a bit of what they DO tell you is lies.

        • Chief Gumbo Speaker

          This, right here, is why I can’t give you any credit as an independent thinker. I was present for this fight, and I had misgivings about your account before I even read your byline. Therefore, aside from your OBVIOUS bias in the article, I would have had no way of knowing which side you were on. But your writing makes it quite clear that you have an agenda, and that agenda is not reporting simply the facts. Also, I’m pretty sure there were something like 5 fleets chasing poor Asher around. Tell him to fit a DC next time.

  • Rob Kaichin

    You might want to edit your article again:

    “i first offered him a 5 second head start if he jumped into me, then once he gave me the bird on that offer and lost more than half his fleet i jokingly offered him a 1b ransom for the rest – i have chatlogs with timestamps as well

    e: realistically anyway with cerbs vs my battleship fleet if i’d given him more than 5 seconds i might as well have just let him through, i offered him terms that were more than fair and he refused. don’t try to play that up as extortion”

    From Requiescat on Reddit.

    • Viktor Fel

      I go with the information I have, not whatever shits it’s self out on /r/eve. #internetspaceshipsareseriousbusiness

      • Rob Kaichin

        “The information you have”.

        I think your source was inaccurate. Maybe you should check both sides of the story first.

  • Knobber

    “Those of us who fight regularly in the The Imperium’s fleets know better, yet this myth persists.”

    Swordfleet totally isn’t a thing is it. You sound like you’re trying to convince yourself rather than anyone else.

    • Rob Kaichin

      You missed the “All 100 of the Imperium’s active characters’ joke. 😛

    • Viktor Fel

      ~ blinks twice ~

  • callduron

    01.30 Eve time. Five and a half hours before your vulnerability time is set to.

    Dunno why it’s called a strat op, op’s at that time are meaningless roams. Your leadership has dealt you out of any chance to help defend your space.

  • Kama Kairade

    “As the so called War of Sovless Aggression, or World War Bee, depending on which side a pilot is on”

    The victor gets to write the history books.

    • atomyx

      Think that actually got proved wrong some months back with the last history book was overwhelmingly shot down.

  • Pazuzu

    Cringe worthy write up.

  • Razordreamz

    Good read, but please enough with mittens sovless aggression, the war already has a name used by everyone else, the only reason to use solvless aggression is to spin.

  • Saint Michael’s Soul

    I love that every fourth sentence has the theme “Counter to the MBC propaganda, morale amongst the goons stayed high as we awaited our inevitable whelp.”

    • Salinity Now

      The “Inevitable Whelps” will continue until moral improves. It’s not kinky unless you tie them up first.

  • Xavi Bastanold

    You know, Viktor, it would’ve been a better story if you had written it up in true propaganda fashion rather than 70% damage control followed by 30% of pure complete loss and destruction. It almost sounds whiny to be honest. On the other hand, this would have rocked had you published it in EVE Onion.

  • Parthannun

    Actually the guradians of the Galaxy had sov and we are in teh war so dont know much about mittens claim about sovless aggression

  • StoneColdFacts

    Listen Genius It’s World War Bee. And “News Flash”, your side is losing. No matter how much spin you want to put on it, those are facts you cannot get away from. And by the way, a little conjecture (but no too much of a stretch) would be willing to bet my last ISK, Alex is looking for a way out that does not involve admitting defeat even if it fucks over the entire CFC. I’d be moving on if I were you.

    • James

      No, they are playing the long game dude, they will never lose, because this is all part of the plan….. I think we all know a year for now they will own sov. somewhere, and there will always be some dude(just like this very writer) that will claim they never lost the war, and the fact that they own sov. then(sometime later) proves they never lost. No all CFC dudes are like this, most are calling a spade a spade, but this guy just keeps pushing that narrative, and it’s comical really.

  • lolz

    Funny how hard these guys are trying to change the name of the war. Can’t wait for the two hundred thousand dollar kick starter book that targets a niche market on this war of the sovless. Probably to busy partying on a yacht to worry about the war though.