Getting started with Solo PVP

 

What follows is a submission we got in from Lasker Emanuel, a player that has recently took up the trade of solo PVPing and is sharing with us some of the basics, through the lense of his experience.

 


Learning to solo PvP in EVE is hard. Many people have played the game for years and never really got up and running with solo PvP. EVE is a sandbox game, so you have to create your own content rather than simply queueing for a match like you might in many other games. It’s easy to get stuck in an unfair fight and lose your T1 frigate to a gang of Worms and sometimes you roam for a long time only to find nothing. Even then, when you lose your ship is destroyed and if you want to keep flying you will need another.

All of that said, flying solo is a blast. EVE is a harsh landscape and learning to carve out a niche on your own is very satisfying. EVE has no mechanics for making a fight fair, but it has enough depth of play that it’s possible to enter an unfair fight and emerge victorious. When you fly solo you don’t have to wait on an FC to log in and form a fleet, just undock and start looking for trouble. Lastly, flying solo teaches you a lot about EVE mechanics and can make you a better pilot for whatever else you do in EVE.

Ironically, one of the first things I would recommend for solo PvP is a good corporation. While you are learning to solo PvP you are going to paint your killboard fairly red. You will have setbacks and frustrations and there will be a lot of things that you need to learn. Having the support structure of a corporation with knowledgeable people that you can comfortably share your wins and losses with will help you greatly on your journey.. If you were learning chess or judo, you would seek out a good club that had members that were both knowledgeable and had a good attitude and the same is true here. If folks in your corporation give you a hard time because you are “making the killboard stats worse,” you may be in the wrong type of corporation for learning to solo PVP.

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If you have a corporation that is prepared for the losses you will incur while solo PvPing, the next step is to prepare yourself. Developing skills will involve a large number of losses. If you planned to learn chess or judo, it would be insane to show up at a club with an expectation that you would simply win every match. You will lose, a lot, and that’s life. The goal is to learn as much as you can from each loss. The big differences with EVE is that you have to put a lot of work into finding an opportunity to lose and its subsequent economic loss.

How much do you need to be prepared to lose? A fair bit. I started flying solo in September of this year, and my killboard stats over the next few months looked like this:

Kills September 99
Losses September 146

Kills October 227
Losses October 192

Kills November 215
Losses November 133

Kills December 165
Losses December 69

A little of that is flying in fleets and some of the losses are pods but the vast majority of both the kills and losses are ships flying solo.

Let’s imagine you want to lose 100 ships in a month. For most people, that means we are talking about frigates, maybe very cheap frigates. Everyone in EVE has different economic resources but you need to be prepared to lose a lot of ships. For me, that ended up being frigates that cost between 10-20M. I think that at the start of your adventure you should recognize that you are going to make an investment in your education. An investment which will need to be practical in regards to how much you can afford to invest and what fits you should fly as a result.

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A final note about corporation support. In the month of October, my corp had 1616 kills and 423 losses. I made up almost half of the losses for my 100 person corporation and no one said a single negative word. People instead celebrated with me as I hit milestones (first faction kill in a T1, first pirate kill in a T1, etc.), and had tons of helpful advice. I don’t think you can understate the importance of this kind of support network.

The logistics of getting setup to PvP come next. Let’s say we are planning on flying a number of frigates into the fire and we want to know where and how. The easiest area of space in which you can find fights is the Faction Warfare lowsec. You don’t actually have to be in Faction Warfare to enjoy it but these sections of space have lots of folks flying around in frigates looking for solo PvP, and FW plexes mechanics lend themselves to solo PvPing. There are plenty of other places you can visit to enjoy solo PvP in EVE but most of them require either more expertise, more ISK or both. I have done all my flying around the Amarr vs Minmatar zone but I am told the Caldari vs Gallente zone is also good.

Figure out what fits you want to fly, buy a stack of them at a trade hub and have a shipping organization drop them off in the zone where you want to fly. When you are choosing a staging station, think about where you are likely to find fights, and what it will cost to move your assets into position. If you are actually a member of FW, also consider that if your faction loses control of the system that you will lose access to the stations. I tend to buy fits in stacks of 10-30, using Black Frog Logistics to move them into place. Set your home station to where you have your pile of frigates and you are ready to go.

As you prepare to undock I have one last piece of advice: Instead of flying in a fashion where you are trying to win as much as possible, try to fly in a fashion that you learn as much as possible. EVE is a complex game and getting stronger will be intertwined with learning everything you can. It’s 100% ok to take a losing fight if you can learn something from it. The first month I was solo PvPing I burned out a module in almost every fight and I made endless mistakes. While a Tristan versus a Federation Navy Comet fight is definitely not good odds, especially if you are new, it can still give you valuable experience in managing your drones, range, heat, and also not panicking. After every fight try to figure out what happened. Can you look at your opponents killboard and figure out what fit they were flying? Can you drop it into PYFA and compare it to your fit? Were they faster? Did they have better damage? What did you do wrong? Can you find streams or youtube videos of the fit you flew against and learn more about it?

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You can learn from fight that are slanted against you, but if you spend all your time holding out for the perfect fight you will cut into valuable experience you could be gaining. If you can use all of the good EVE educational resources out there and couple them with maximising the experience you get in-game, you will experience significant growth in your solo PvP game.

In closing, I would like to thank everyone that helped me get off the ground: the members of Pentag Blade and the broader Provibloc that provided support and advice; EVE’s community of streamers, video makers, and article writers that have produced a huge body of work on this amazing, complex, beautiful game, and my many fine opponents that were willing to take the time to undock, blow me up, and teach me how the game is played.

 

Tags: basics, Lasker Emanuel, pvp, solo

About the author

Lasker Emanuel

Lasker Emanuel is a member of Pentag Blade, one of the many fine corporations in CVA. He is an avid PVPer, student of the game, and video maker. He can often be found flying solo around low sec picking difficult fights, and even from time to time in fleets.


  • PvPNewb

    The advice I’ve always wanted to see is how a newer player is supposed to pay for PvP, solo or otherwise. Everyone always encourages new players to get into PvP as soon as possible, but losing 100 ships a month at 10-20M per ship adds up to a hefty price tag. What do you do to fund this learning period, and how do you have time to do both that and PvP at the same time?

    • Kek

      First of all, don’t take for granted that you have to lose 100 ships and don’t take for granted that they have to cost up to 20 mil. You can fly cheaper, you can use/lose fewer ships. Generally, doing fleet PVP as a newbie will get you some form of SRP (ship replacement programmes) or free ship handouts – any half-decent group, small or big, can afford to subsidize its newbie players. So in group PVP, this is generally the answer to your question – others will help.

      As for solo, you just have to manage your resources well by not using expensive ships in situations where you’re very likely to die – either use cheap ones and #YOLO, or use expensive ones and plan your PVP so that you come out on top most of the time. Look at it this way – hisec suicide gankers lose their ship 100% of the time, yet they generally have the direct best profits of all PVPers, It’s all about getting the most value out of your ship by selecting the cheapest variant that accomplishes what you want well. You don’t need a garmur to be a kitey LM annoyance, a breacher can do it too. You don’t need a stratios to kill VNIs in nullsec, you can do it in a stabber. You don’t need a black ops to kill rattlesnakes, you need a group of t1 destroyers.

      If you roam around lowsec, stash random loot you find or earn in stations, and scoop and sell it at a later point. If you take a t1 frigate into lowsec, a lot of the time you can make it pay for itself just by looting abandoned wrecks and securing them at a station.

      Additionally, some forms of PVP reward more ISK and risk less ISK than others. You’re not likely to come out positive if you take a slow and expensive ship on a roam in NPC nullsec, but if you just camp hacking sites/gates in a cloaky and engage only things you can reasonably kill, you will generally not be losing ISK.

      Also, do your PVE. Just a few hours of PVE+insurance+loot will get you through a month if you fly cheap and/or conservatively. If you want to play solo and need to PLEX with ISK, you honestly need to work on your PVE first and on your PVP second, unless you’re a very good scammer/awoxer. My advice is to play in a group, because it opens more opportunities for everything, and reduces your overhead costs if you cooperate.

  • Sammie MacWinters

    This is a good article I hope there’s more coming from this guy!

  • Joe

    Great article. And congratulations on a very impressive turn around in your kill board. My experience was a bit different in that I never really learned to solo pvp from others. I tended to learn to solo pvp from using eft and designing my own fits and understanding what they can do what they can’t do and what they might be able to do. I also learned from looking at the fits of those who killed me – especially if I was warping my pod out wondering “WTF just happened?”

    Sadly I would say that allot of the advice I got from other corpmates was just bad advice and bad fits for solo. Maybe thats because I thought of all pvp the same and didn’t see the people giving advice didn’t really do solo. I think there the thing is if you want to fit a ship for solo don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t fly solo. There is definitely allot to say on this topic and hope you post more.

  • Richard Graham

    I thought the name was familiar. This guy was in Amarr FW awoxing everything in sight, flying under CVA. Easy wins if you just gank blues.

    But this is EVE, more power to ya kid