CZ does industry


As is well known by now, Xander knows very little about Eve. What little he does know is most certainly not in the field of Eve Online industry or economics. In an attempt to be slightly less ignorant about this piece of the overall puzzle that is New Eden, it made sense to grab two of the most famous industry practitioners and theorists to explain Eve economics in 2013. First up we have a GSF economic director, one of the richest people in all of Eve and the gentleman voted first in the recent CSM8 election, Mynnna. Secondly we have someone who has rapidly become one of the key economic theorists in game, a reputation solidified by a recent piece on described by none other than Ripard Teg as – by far –  the best piece to appear on there this year, the amazing Lockefox.

When faced with such an abundance of knowledge, it seemed sensible to try and take advantage of the situation by asking a multitude of questions. We cover a heap of ground including what Odyssey has brought to the economic table, what is still wrong with industry in null sec, the recent announcement that the CFC would be moving to a rental model and how to make the move into industry as a career choice.

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As an hour long primer to Eve economics in 2013, I don’t think we could have done much better. Mynnna had some issues with his mic throughout the recording but hopefully you can make out what he is saying throughout.

Fly safe,


Tags: economics, industry, lockefox, mynnna

About the author

Xander Phoena

The good looking, funny, intelligent member of the team, Xander set up Crossing Zebras with Jeg in April 2012 mainly because he was talking too much about Eve on his other podcast. Playing the game for almost five years, Xander still has absolutely zero clue about how to actually play Eve but somehow still manages to talk a good game.

  • Ahnog

    Enjoyed the show. How about one on market trading?

  • Din Chao

    Great show as usual. It’s nice to see that, in direct contrast to accusations of RMT in nullsec, Mynnna can’t afford a decent microphone. 😉

  • Dinsdale Pirannha

    Love your question about what drives these guys to make money: How about it starts with an R, and ends with a T. I also find it fascinating that the CSM rep makes his money by trying to guess what CCP is doing. Funny, no he has best source of inside information available.

    • Cass Lie

      Says the biggest RMT overlord in EVE.
      You never disproved it. What’s worse, you didn’t even try.

      (See? Flinging around accusations without a shred of evidence is easy. Try coming up with an actual proof next time.)

  • Cass Lie

    Great podcast as usual. One thing that leaves me a bit confused is how is mynnna able to procceed with making making money with pre-patch speculation while being on the CSM. Now I know the CSM members are being audited by CCP so I trust the involved parties that everything is fine.

    Also I don’t care about members of CSM not setting a perfect moral example, stealing supercaps, being jerks, etc. But pre-patch speculation is the one thing where one can actually directly benefit from being on the CSM – early access to devblogs and all. The thing that leaves me confused is how is one able to speculate and not use the (possible) extra information that he possesses. Even if he acts only after the devblogs are released, he still potentionaly had more time to prepare and figure out the likely price movements than his competitors who are only just now firing up their spreadsheets. So does he wait a few hours before acting? He loses (some) money that way. I would simply love to hear some clarification on that.

    • mynnna

      I used to make money on pre-patch spec. Now I can’t. I’ll be sitting winter 2013 and summer 2014 out.

      • Cass Lie

        I must have somehow missed this. Thanks for the answer.